Traffic
Notice from Poughkeepsie-Dutchess County Transportation
We have received notice from the Poughkeepsie-Dutchess County Transportation Council that they will be conducting a traffic count on Kelly Street, between Morton Road and Orchard Drive during the week of May 19-23, 2008.
Please be aware that this is one of 4 locations in the Town (plus 2 locations in the Village) that will be part of the annual traffic counts conducted at various locations throughout the County. These counts are conducted at varying sites (800 of them) throughout the County, each year. It is part of the County's annual traffic count records and is not an indicator of a specific project or a proposal. It is just data for the countywide study at 800 previously selected spots on 26 state, 100 county and 161 local roads throughout the county. These counts have been
conducted every year (rotating the locations among the 800) since 1999.
The other locations within the Town are Miler Road between 9G and 308 White Schoolhouse Road between Hilltop Road and Cedar Lane Mt Rutsen Road between Old Post Road and River Road.
The two Village locations are:
South Parsonage Street between North Park Road and East Market Street Montgomery Street between Route 9 and Old Post Road (not quite sure where they mean by that description)
Rhinecliff could learn from the Rhineland
We think this is exactly what Rhinecliff should consider:
The following is from NPR:
Bohmte, a small town in Germany, is implementing an unusual plan to decrease its traffic accident rate: Take a busy main street and strip it of road signs, curbs, sidewalks and stop lights — then mix up the cars and trucks with pedestrians and bicyclists.
Many drivers on the town's main street have spent time fighting for space among the 12,000 cars and big trucks that once rumbled along the narrow lane on an average day.
Uwe Muther, who stocks vending machines and spends a lot of time in his delivery van, was one of them.
Muther says the driving was bad, especially because all the trucks would come right through the center of town. If you wanted to cross the street, you had to stand there and wait for five or 10 minutes, so something had to be done, he adds.
Along one stretch of the town's main thoroughfare, the curbs have been removed and the asphalt and sidewalks replaced by one continuous red pavement. There's hardly a street sign in sight. As Muther's van approaches this section, he slows down.
He says the kind of pavement here and the lack of street signs mean everybody has to be considerate of everyone else. It's about cooperation on the streets, and Muther thinks it makes sense.
It seems counterintuitive to give drivers less information, by taking away street signs, stop lights and lane markings, to make them drive more safely. It's supposed to help reclaim the streets for pedestrians and bicyclists.
Advocates of this traffic-management philosophy, called Shared Space, say it works. Ben Hamilton-Baillie is a leading Shared Space advocate based in Bristol, England.
"If you're faced with a traffic signal, you don't have to think anymore. Whether you go depends on whether the light is red or green," he says. "In the absence of such things, we're perfectly capable of reading and understanding the situation so that if grandma's in the road ahead of you, you don't run her over."
He compares the Shared Space concept to an ice skating rink. It might look chaotic, but people usually navigate the shared area pretty well. In a traffic context, it means cars, bicyclists and pedestrians are in much closer proximity than they usually are.
But common sense and courtesy, as well as drivers feeling more a part of the space they're moving through, is supposed to cut down on accidents.
Brigitte Asshorn owns a hotel and restaurant on a road that is being turned into more Shared Space. The street in front of her business has already been redone.
Asshorn says that since this part was finished, she's had drivers actually stop, smile at her and signal for her to cross the street, without a marked pedestrian crossing or a light. She thinks it has caused a change in people's awareness.
The shared streets are not meant to replace every road, but reworking downtown thoroughfares has already succeeded in the Dutch town of Drachten. That Shared Space municipality got rid of almost all its stop lights a few years year ago. Most street signs are gone, and big intersections have traffic circles. Accidents have fallen by 50 percent since the program started, city officials say.
But in Bohmte, some worry the roads will become more dangerous. Others, like Nadia Keer, worry about the cost.
She says the town needs a lot of things, like programs for young people, and is surprised that it is spending all this money to repave the streets. She also says that tiny Bohmte just wants to put itself on the map.
Police officer Peter Hilbricht says the investment is worth it. Still, he says, in car-loving, rule-loving Germany, sharing the lane with those on two legs or two wheels will take drivers some getting used to.
He explains that in Germany, everything is regulated, and suddenly this little town is losing all of its traffic signs.
He says that to really get that into people's heads it is going to take a while.
Bohmte officials hope it never catches on with some. The town's mayor says as traffic slows and drivers have to be more careful, he hopes big trucks bypass his main street all together.
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Traffic safety in Rhinecliff.

July 21, 2006
Dear Supervisor Block, the Comprehensive Plan Committee and Members of the Rhinebeck Town Board:
This letter focuses on a situation that merits consideration in plans for our area’s future: traffic safety in Rhinecliff.
A car nearly clipped a woman when jogging. A school bus and car collided on a sharp curve. Cars killed three cats next door, and a dog down the street. An older lifelong resident who likes to walk says, “You wouldn’t believe how cars fly by.” And drivers rushing to catch the train often blow right past the stop sign – a shock to a mother waiting to cross with a baby carriage. Speeding cars and trucks are a concern each and every day on Kelly Street.
We live on Kelly Street with our two young children, Lily, aged 2, and Nicholas, aged 4. More than a dozen other young children also live along this street. We walk with our children to the library, to the post office and to the river’s edge. We walk a lot – it’s part of why we love Rhinecliff.
Attached is a field investigation that we commissioned because we were so concerned about traffic safety:
1. Chazen Engineering identified non-compliance with stopping site distance requirements at nine locations along Kelly Street. Nine locations failed to comply with Dutchess County Department of Public Works (DCDPW) standards, among them four locations that also failed to comply with the American Association of State Highway and Transportation Officials (AASHTO). The report also found “difficult pedestrian travel” and “no pedestrian travel ways”.
2. A petition signed by residents of 30 houses along Kelly Street asked the Town of Rhinebeck to arrange for a qualified traffic engineer to meet with residents and discuss options for a lasting solution.
3. The petition and engineering report were submitted to the Town of Rhinebeck in April 2003 and again in April 2005.
No effective action has been taken. Several yellow signs posted last year make no impact on speed, according to the New York State Highway Design Manual and our experience.
We do have options: squeeze lanes with curbs and paint, alter the road surface, reclassify the street so the double lines can be repainted white, return curves to four-corners, create paths or pedestrian walkways, add highly visible “Welcome to …” signage, conduct driver awareness campaigns, and enforce a legal speed limit of 25 mph or less. Let’s discuss these options and others.
While the number of cars may be low today, traffic pressure is certain to increase. And although the engineering report covers only one street, people in all parts of the hamlet tell us that they are concerned about traffic. Development proposals surround Rhinecliff but no professional, comprehensive, effective plan to manage traffic is on the table.
Real dangers go unaddressed; we need action now before volume grows.
Sincerely,
Chris Gould and Susan Guthridge-Gould
Rhinecliff Traffic Study
In April, 2003, The Rhinecliff Safe Traffic Committee submitted a petition to the Rhinebeck Town Board regarding traffic safety on Kelly Street. The Committee re-submitted this petition in 2005.
The Committee commissioned Chazen Engineering & Land Surveying Company to evaluate traffic on Rhinecliff’s Kelly Street. The company found nine locations of non-compliance for stopping sight distance. The evaluation also found “difficult pedestrian travel” and “no pedestrian travel ways” along Kelly Street.
The Committee made recommendations to the Town Board.
Click here to read the full petition for additional detail.

